Wednesday, March 18, 2009

College study finds two-year 'penalty'

Seems like the research I have been stating has come to pass :)


College study finds two-year 'penalty'
By Mary Beth Marklein, USA TODAY

Most workers who have a degree from a community college can earn more than a person who had no formal training after high school. And even if they never complete a two-year degree, students who attend some community college can get higher-paying jobs.
But what if that student goes on to earn a bachelor's? A study being released today shows that people with a bachelor's degree who transferred from a community college earn less than those who start at a four-year school.
The pattern continues even for community college students who go on to earn a doctorate or a professional degree. And it holds for people of the same gender, race, education, experience level, field of study and type of college attended.
Natalia Kolesnikova, an economist with the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, calculated the data based on the 2003 National Survey of College Graduates, a joint project of the U.S. Census Bureau and the National Science Foundation. Her findings support previous studies suggesting a "community college penalty" for students attending Ohio public universities.

She says more research is needed to understand why that is. But she adds: "It is important for individuals to know both the benefits and the disadvantages of attending a community college when making decisions about education."

Friday, March 6, 2009

Attitudes from the State of Florida

Bills would require 10 years of teaching before tenure

This is the thought process from a member of government in the State of Florida.
http://www.flsenate.gov/data/session/2009/Senate/bills/billtext/pdf/s2458.pdf
The following is my thoughts and response to this

For all reading this, there is a bigger point at stake. 10 Years for Tenure, that is embarrassing. I believe this all started in the college world. A person was allowed to remain at a college if he/she managed to get published X times in 10 years. Still today this is hard to accomplish.

In this bill, if you take the time to read it, you will see that at any point a person may be removed from a position of teaching. The purpose of the bill is to state at the end of a year when progress may or may not have been made, this person may be let go.
You are asking professionals to lay their career on the line, in the hands of children. So it is basically the fault of the teacher, when a student fails. It is not a parents fault, or the State of Florida for providing the resources, or DCF for making sure the family has enough food and clothing and a roof over the child’s head, it is just the teacher.

I take offense to this. Give or take Tenure may be something negotiable within a year scope, but to be able to teach within 3 years is a valid time line. Being able to find students who put the effort required to succeed may be hardest portion of our job. In the high school realm, we work day in and day out to dealing with education in the books. We also get to deal with all issues your teenager is going through. The system we work in allocates professionalism toward your child’s emotional times of growing up, pregnancy, death, failure, breakups etc. These should be home issues, yet we get them.

We also get to deal with issues relating to drugs and alcohol, moral reasoning and all the other aspects in which society deems necessary. And dare I remind you again we have subjects to teach. What is our goal? If the State of Florida is going to say on one hand, we are to teach our subjects and we are removing the power of the FCAT and replacing it with subject area tests, then fine. If you are taking it further and stating only scores matter, then we are test prep coordinators and then I want the money to also allocate with a bonus feature. For every student that passes my class I get $1000 dollars for the hard work. For every student that fails my class, the student and the parent gets to explain why. Then they come back again and we have a redo. Perhaps the State of Florida can consider this structure. I may still only get 45 students pass, but the rest won’t get social promotion, and we can play this game the way you are designing it.